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What is Short Man Syndrome and Does it Really Exist ?
We’ve all heard of short men supposedly having ‘chips on their shoulders’ but it seems there really is something in it !

It’s easy to see how this could be the case I suppose - after all society always tells us size matters !
Because your host is nudging the bar at almost 6ft 3″ I’ve no personal experience of being vertically challenged but it’s easy to see how people may feel.
The very act of ‘looking up’ at somebody can be intimidating. The old ‘power thing’ of somebody in charge having chairs in the their office which are slightly lower than theirs is still used today by people - and is shown experimentally to work.

Being teased and bullied at school must also have a lasting effect on many if not most. The verbal cruelty of children is seldom matched by those in the workplace or in general society.

There is also a sexist element here, nobody really cares if a woman is 5ft 5 inches but a man automatically becomes a short a**e.
Statistically, most women would not want a partner who is shorter than them for instance. It ‘looks odd’ to us to see a short man with a tall woman but not the other way round - it’s a stereotypical image hardwired into us.

Look at what Nicole Kidman said when asked how she felt no longer being with Tom Cruise
“It’s nice to be able to wear heels again”

But Does it Really Matter ?
Yes, statistically it seems it does !

A man who is 5ft 5 is 50% more likely to suffer from extreme envy problems that a 6 ft plus

Shorter men earn, on average, considerably less than taller men

Small guys are far more likely to be unable to find a girlfriend and lose their virginity later

They are also far more likely to be unmarried and to suffer from depression

Tall salesmen were more successful than their shorter colleagues

The list goes on and is all statistically very compelling. I have personally experienced that guys shorter than myself are far more likely to become aggressive after drinking or in pubs for example.
It’s as if they feel the need to prove something.

I believe this ‘issue’ is ultimately only in the mind of the person ‘affected’, most people really couldn’t care how tall you are, it’s you that cares and it’s that which causes potential issues to a greater or lesser extent dependent on how much ‘you care about it’

Does your height matter to you ?
What do women think of short men ?
Are you tall medium or short and how does it affect you if at all ?

This is a stub article intended to start a more detailed debate, there are some very interesting comments and theories below which are well worth checking out - thank you

Please feel free to click the Facebook link below to share with others - many thanks


  1. Craig said,

    March 14, 2008 @ 10:24 am

    Up until sixteen, I didn’t measure above five foot three, but a growth spurt fixed that!

    I was bullied however, but whether that was attitude or height related I don’t know. :)

    Has it affected me in later life?

    Don’t know to be honest. Other aspects could have affected me similarly.

    The virginity thing is interesting. I ‘lost’ mine aged twenty, but more through being choosy, than being unable to find a girlfriend. At school being small meant all the older girls thought I was cute!

  2. Rod said,

    March 14, 2008 @ 10:50 am

    Hi Craig
    thanks for the commment and welcome to the site.
    I didn’t grow at all after about 15 or 16 years and I never got bullied was this because I was bigger than most ? don’t know but it seems likely.

    I think much is based on impressions we have of people we see, they are created in a split second often using a thought process and rationale we are not actually ‘aware’ of.
    The thought proces but so quick, and indeeed biased by previous experiences or opinions, that we don’t actuialy realise just how much we have judged a person by what we see.

    Image is very strong, always has been.
    Look how many Hollywood actors have stood on boxes or had the female co stars stood in trenches - happened in the B&Ws and still today !

    There’s a great deal of mileage in being thought of as cute - hope you milked it for all it was worth ;)

  3. Annie Flinn said,

    March 14, 2008 @ 5:47 pm

    Hello Rod (I avoided saying “hi” lest someone be offended),
    If I may, let’s look at the opposite end of the spectrum. My son was tall from the minute he was born. It created difficulties because people thought he was older and expected him to have the skills of a child two-three years older than he was. I remember taking him for skiing lessons. He was put in a class with older children, and when he didn’t have the coordination and strength that they did, he was ruled out. I don’t think he was bullied because he was tall and thin, but it is not something he ever mentioned. The problems came with buying clothes for him. His jackets were always too short in the sleeves. I bought his pants in a longer size, and temporarily hemmed them if needed, because I knew that within a few weeks he would need the extra length.

    Rod, did you encounter such problems, as well?

  4. Rod said,

    March 14, 2008 @ 6:13 pm

    Hi :) Annie
    that’s an interesting point. Presumably extremes of anything can cause problems and situations at school and later in life.
    I was never tall enough quickly enough to cause any clothing problems.
    I do now have the problem that’s well documented on this site and that is buyiung trousers.

    Nobody locally does a long leg below a 32″ waist, they do them for every size 32 upward but not below - only short or medium leg.

    I may suffer from SMS myself soon as I’ve shrunk. I used to be 6/3 exactly and now I below that !
    I could be shrinking with old age but I like to think it’s more likely I’m wearing the bottom of my feet out :)

  5. prem said,

    June 11, 2009 @ 6:32 pm

    Hey guys out there , i am 5′6″ and I am by Indian standards too a bit short. I feel that shortness is an adaptation very special as much as a tall man. Its like a coupe and a SUV. each has its own capabilities. As a short man, I do remarkable gymnastics capable of highly balanced movements that tall men envy. Besides you see this is the key attribute of a successful person even from an evolutionary standpoint. You have to be agile as a hunter , you dont normally wrestle to bring down a bison , but by tactics , quickness and speed. The short man is blessed with all these. Also there is this flawed statistic about tall men being more successful and earning more.Let me explain, the genes for a smaller stature is an adaptation for hardiness born out of a shortage situation, therefore poorer men are generally short and sturdy to stand the tough times. The richer guy is taller and by virtue of their financial background their sons become richer and more successful, simple. Hence the correlation is in the direction of success –> easy lives –> big stature.

    PS: I am not against tall men, they are as much evolutionarily positioned as we are. No judgement needed:)

  6. Rod said,

    June 11, 2009 @ 7:55 pm

    Hi Prem,
    thanks for the comment and welcome to the site - all the way from India as well !
    Strangely enough I have a similar post about to be published in the next day or so on a very similar theme.

    All the best from England

  7. Brian Mallott said,

    June 19, 2009 @ 12:07 am

    Having been a short person for my now 62 years I have observed the following:-

    1. Society in general doesn’t mind if a tall person is arrogant or aggressive but objects if the same comes from a short person. This may be that a tall person is perceived as being an Alpha Male of the species but can’t get its head around the idea - or finds it repulsive - that a short person could be an Alpha Male.

    2 When I did “good work” or ‘shone’ at some subject or other it seemed to raise eyebrows - and I did hear comments - that no one expected anything of value from a little person. Again people would prefer that you sat quietly in the corner and not draw attention to your-self even if that was not your intention.

    3 Being human I ‘messed up’ from time to time but I noticed that often the retribution aimed at me was far harsher - sometimes bordering on spitefulness - than that meted out to a taller persons when they committed the same fault - in their case extenuating circumstances where often found - in mine you would think that I did it deliberately.

    4 Taller persons don’t seem to think that there is anything to worry about and it’s all in the imagination of short people. Yes you do develop a thick skin - or sometimes simply don’t notice - my answer, try being a short person for a week.

    5. About 10 years ago a survey was carried out in the USA questioning the attitude of a random selection of the population to pictures of young male persons - then compared the answers. The persons questioned were given to think that the pictures were of people of average - or above - height. However when they were told that the person in the picture was about 5ft tall their reaction change was quite marked - attractive men were suddenly not so attractive after all. Of the persons questioned there was a few who’s attitudes didn’t change but the vast majority did and not for the better.

    6. Having lived in Africa for some 20+ years, I did notice that the above seems to be uniquely ‘Western’ phenomena. The Black African peoples that I met seem more inclined to take people as they come and were less inclined to judge others.

  8. Rod said,

    June 19, 2009 @ 8:36 am

    thanks for the great commentand welcome to the site - hope you’ll return.
    I used to work with a guy and he said he was continually teased since being at school for being smaller the most.
    He took it on the chin and always said if he had ginger hair it would have been about that rather than his height.

    I suppose human nature means that people home in on the first most obvious thing and make judgements accordingly.

    Thanks again for a great contribution to the debate Brian
    All the best

  9. Edwin Arthur Mathis said,

    August 14, 2009 @ 1:15 pm

    I knew from an early age what my shortcommings were going to entail for me.I think it was when i was age 5 and i was one of 4 short kids in my class.For some reason we were sepperated by the bigger kids in class.They seemed too boisterous, and were always knocking us smaller kids down.I always wanted to be like these big kids as it seemed nothing but fun for them.I had Joel, Kirsty, and Becky.We were all a good 6/7 ins shorter than the rest.With Joel he was always saying that he couldnt wait to grow bigger like the other kids, he used to think that because he was slightly taller than me and the girls he would grow sooner than us.I suppose i should have realised when mum or dad used to pick me up from school THE penny should have dropped that they were both shorter than most of the mums and dad’s.I think they were on a par with Joel’s Kirsty’s and Becky’s parents.I used to see them all standing together at the back after all the other kids in class were picked up.At this time there was my sister Ruby who was 4 and i used to get annoyed at her has she was already slightly taller than me.I asked my mum why it was she was taller and she used to say that girls grew faster than boys dont worry.My younger brother Marcus was 3 and he was the only one shorter than me.Over the next couple of years i had to endure mum doing all our heights on our birthdays we all used the same one and mum just wrote our names on the chart and our ages.It wasnt long befor marcus was caught up with me then everyone used to say we looked like twins but i was insistant that i was 2 years older than him.I decided to ask mum and dad how tall they were and mum told me that she was 4′10 and dad was 5′0.I said that sometimes she seemed taller than dad to which she replied that is the wonder of wearing high heels.I remember my first day at high school and mum had to alter all my trousers so they fitted and my school blazer was the smallest shops did and that was still quite long.When we did pe kids for a laugh grabbed my school shoes and looked at the size it was only a size 10 some boys were now in size 5/6.My school shirts being white wasnt a problem to buy but they were aged 7/8 and i was now 11.When Ruby was at high school she was now 6 ins taller than me and her friends were forever asking how old i was and why i was shorter than her.I was laughed at because she was taller than me.I still had Joel and Becky and Kirsty with me and now a few other short kids.Over the next 3 years Joel did get his growth spurt and he was now 5′0 i Becky and Kirsty were still only 4′6.Joel thought it was funny by keep saying i told you so that i was gonna grow taller.We used to laugh that he was still shorter than alot of the kids in our year.By the end of school i ended up at 4′10 just like mum i found it easy finding a date for the end of school disco.In fact i turned up with Kirsty and Becky and we had a good time.I still see Becky and Kirsty out and about and Joel sometimes.I am glad for Becky and Kirsty as they both ended up at 5′0 and 5′2 Joel managed to reach 5′2 me i only managed to reach an extra inch so i now stand tall at 4′11.I am married to a great woman for many number of years now.She stands at a graceful 5′7 and she never wears heels has she feels more confident at her height.We have a 21 year old son who is 5′9 and for some reason feels that he is still short when he sees guys over 6′0.I just say that he should be lucky has i am not even 5′0 and would have loved his height if i could have.Our 18 year old daughter is very sensitive and maybe due to her being shorter than average for some reason she is 4′9 and gets abit agitated when her cousins are always molly coddling her.She says that she can do things herself and dosesnt like all the attention.She says she gets it all the time outside especially with guys trying to help she just says she isnt handicapped just vertically challenged.She says that she would like to have been like her mum but we still treat her the same.She works in a school as she feels happier teaching the young kids in the early years and moves on to the older kids later.Me and Marcus meet up alot and talk about our familes and i love the fact that Marcus only ended up at 5′4 and he has married a woman abit taller than him she is 5′8.Their kids are taller than mine though their 3 kids are 5′6 5′8 and 5′10.Rudy is a great mum and she aslo has a family she thought that being 5′8 she might have trouble finding a guy who didnt mind her height and she found a lovely guy who is 5′5 their 2 kids are Rob who is 5′3 and Samantha she is 5′9.We all meet up every now and then.So we have a good family bond together.

  10. R. Scott said,

    September 16, 2009 @ 2:17 am

    Hi Rod Interesting reading. My wife saw a program on television last night that I was researching. The program STATED; not as statistical data still being gathered, but as a law of nature, that taller men are superior to short men in every way. Meaning health, intelligence, every conceivable point.
    I am 5′ 5″. Started off about an inch taller,but after 10 years of manual labour,lol. The accepted belief is that S.M. syndrome does exist, environmental cause or genetic in origin, still undetermined. My experience with females is equally negative and positive. Two of my paramours were 5′9″, the other 5′ 10″. This I believe due to two factors; I guess I got lucky with bone structure, and though short, my build is more leg than torso, and so misleading. As for the treatment at the hands of my peers…pretty shabby. The assumption by males is that if you are small, you are weak. I was raised to be polite regardless of others behaviour. This too was misinterpreted by males.
    My father had been a boxer, he was 5′7″. By the time I was six it was necessary to begin my self defense training. This and the need to protect myself on a daily basis did lead to over compensate in one area, a violent disposition. Too easy it becomes the tool to solve problems. Like an unfortunate country racked by violent revolution after violent revolution. Once I was aware of this ‘leakage’, I started the long job of unlearning. Unfortunately, I must be honest and admit it’s a long process.
    I’ve never envied tall men, oddly enough just wanted to be an emotionally better version of my vertically challenged self. I’ll leave you with a joke I’ve enjoyed many years. Do short people live longer? No. It just seems that way.
    Be well.

  11. Amiguru said,

    September 16, 2009 @ 6:37 pm

    Taking Annies tip about not saying ‘hi’ I’m going to say…
    ‘lo Rod,

    I have been a member of the ‘Shorthouse’ family of man all my life and with old age now well set in I am shrinking rapidly. I quite agree with a lot of the above in that short people are regarded as inferior, both by some tall people and even some shorter people. If standing at a bar waiting to order drinks or a meal, Shorthouses tend to be made to wait until the Talls are served, even those who have arrived much later, and then are often served with a somewhat distainful look. The same principles seem to apply in shops.

    However, such issues as the above are a mere irritation. Height is only relative in the physical sense. One can tower over others in intellect, strength of character, personality, confidence, bravery etc. I have never felt inferior to others, be they taller or shorter.

    Both Nelson and Napoleon were about 5′ 6″ and height didn’t seem to stunt their strength of character and ambition.

    Shrinkingly yours,
    Violet - oops, sorry!

  12. Rod said,

    September 16, 2009 @ 6:57 pm

    R. Scott,
    thanks for the comment and welcome to the site - sorry for my late reply.
    I find the topic of interest as a student of human nature. In fact during lunch today with some friends the topic came up. I made the statement that I thought the only peole who really cared about being smaller inheight were those it actually affected.
    Personally I couldn’t care less about height.

    Sarkozy is now the poster boy for this issue and I believe the whole ‘problem’ resides entirely with him.
    He makes an issue of height by using stools to stand on and this week having people bused in to stand behind him because the factory he was at didn’t have enough people under 5ft 5″ to stand behind him !

    To me you’re either a good person or not - you’re a success or failure based on your life and actions etc.
    Colour, creed, sex, height or sexuality means nothing - at least not to me anyway

    All the best

  13. Rod said,

    September 16, 2009 @ 7:02 pm

    I’m not sure how my opinions are coloured in this discussion as I’ve never been the subject of wise cracks or bullying and the like due to height etc.
    I feel I do understand it but only experiencing gives true insight I’m sure.
    I’m over 6/2 but I’ve never seen being smaller as a problem.
    No doubt people poke fun, as they do to people with ginger hair or indeed no hair etc.
    We’re immediately judged by our most obvious feature - whatever that may be - the point of inteest for me is that those that see height as an issue tend to be ’smaller’ - I’ve never met a ‘tall’ person who bothered about somebody being smaller !

  14. R. Scott said,

    September 17, 2009 @ 6:23 pm

    Hi Rod, back again. just read the bit about Sarkozy. Oh man what a laugh! I’m still waiting for the bargain hunter trips to China for the leg implant surgery, lol. As the Western corperate model spreads widewide, the pressure to compete has been stepped up. Executes of less than desirable height are have implants in the lower leg bones to be taller! Wonder is anyone fully explained the dangers of exposing bone tissue? This is a very good site. I must check out more…Be well. Scott out.

  15. Michelle said,

    January 15, 2010 @ 2:41 pm

    Granted height is not something anyone can just order from the doctor…nor am I shallow or judgmental as I would never be rude to anyone.
    I am 5′5′ and wish I was taller…
    I can truly say I am just NOT attracted to a short OR small man.
    I have indeed tried from lack of choices available. Unfortunate as it may be.

    My dad and brothers we all tall 6′1 being the shortest 6′4 being the tallest..why I am only 5′5 who knows ..but I just cant seem to change the fact I like a tall man.

    It is what it is.. just as some like red haired women and some like brunettes .
    I want a tall man regardless of what is socially accepted or perceived.

    Hope no one takes offense to me giving “MY” opinion.

    So the answer from ME is YES size matters and YES in height too… LOL

  16. Chase said,

    October 11, 2010 @ 5:51 pm

    Hi, Interesting read here.

    I am a tall person growing up I disliked my height, the name calling wasn’t bad at all. I just stood out and the comments ‘oh wow, you are tall’. Well I am 6ft 3, not so tall now I have grown into a 21 year old. The reason I dislike and enjoy seeing this short man syndrome is due to the fact I got fed up of people saying I was tall. I never used to see this as a good thing, now I do. But now I feel its good to reverse this and my once negative trait that short people didn’t like is now a positive. Pretty much like the bully at school is now the garbage man, whilst I am achieving.

    Now being tall and young I am enjoying the success. I get noticed, I look good, girls when wearing hills feel sexy and womanly standing by my side. Even if a 6ft model came into the bar I have a better chance than anyone below her height.

    Reading up on this is actually making me feel better about being tall, as I never used to.

  17. Rod said,

    October 11, 2010 @ 6:38 pm

    thanks for the comment and welcome to the site - rejoice in being 6ft 3″ - it’s the optimal height !
    As that’s about my size I’m perhaps biased.
    I should draw confidence from your height - I’m over twice as old as you Chase and in all that time I’ve never heard anyone our size wishing they were smaller - hell of a lot of 5 footers wishing they were our height though !

    There’s a lot of people who, dare I say it this way, wish they were in your shoes Chase.

    The SMS is still alive and kicking, only last week Tom Cruise was seen in specially built up shoes to walk alongside Cameron Diaz - interestingly when they took the red carpet pictures they stood on a carpeted stairway and he stood one step above her !
    All the best

  18. John Jeffrey said,

    October 18, 2010 @ 11:15 pm

    I have been short my entire life. I noticed from an early age that taller people sometimes think that they have the right to say whatever they want. I have always been outspoken and willing to defend myself. Some people may say I have Napoleon or Short Man Syndrome, but I dont think there is anything wrong with it because I have never been bullied. I am 17 years old and I am 5 foot 5 but nobody will ever bully me because I won’t allow it. I am proud of who I am and am willing to fight if I have to in order to keep my pride. I was also brought up by an Irish mother so maybe its just in my blood to be tough and the height doesn’t really matter.

  19. Rod said,

    October 19, 2010 @ 8:33 am

    thanks for the comment and welcome to the site - hope you’ll return.
    Well said !
    height doesn’t really matter
    I think that’s ultimately the right attitude - all things like this are only perception anyway - just how society views things. That said I personally believe as with many things it’s more of an issue for people the people concerned than for others.

    Many men have a terrible time with early hair loss for example - it bothers them greatly and affects their confidence etc - but nobody else really cares ! It can be a self-made issue I think.
    As I said originally who cares how tall the French President is ? He’s made it an issue by standing on boxes etc.

    More power to you John
    All the best

  20. sam said,

    October 21, 2010 @ 12:54 am

    I think how tall you are has nothing to do with your brain or heart, and I also think people that make fun of people that are short are bullys plan and simple, it is a form of bullying,and it makes me think about all the people who have killed them selfs do to bullying, I think bullying starts at home with the parents and how they talk about others, if people would not be bullys them selfs maybe there kids would not be.
    when ever any one makes fun of my 5ft 7in frame, it does both in some way but it is bound to both any one if someone belittles them ,or as i like to say plays the obvious game,I would ask why is it ok for a tall person to tease a short person, how can it be in any way good?? a tall person would not like it if you make fun of them say if they have a big nose or are bald or a speech problem, they also get aggressive ,I think anyone would so why label it short mans syndrome? Also if the short guy gets fed up with it and stands up for his man hood how is that .short mans syndrome? if a tall man stands up for his its ok cause he is bigger hmmm this world is so messed up they cant see there own mistakes, we should all just get along, has it made my life hard yes ,why cant anyone see this as a people problem not the short guy,
    If people would just except each other for who they are and what they bring to the world,,bullying would not be a problem,if anyone does not see it as bullying they are dumb,cause any time you belittle its bullying. so lets get real

  21. Keith said,

    November 22, 2010 @ 11:34 pm

    It’s humoring to see this conversation has gone on for two years.
    I am 5′3″ and being short has both benefits and shortfalls. Being short means that I can avoid low branches and such while hiking, while my taller peers struggle (I heckle them for their giantess), but it also means less success in courtship and dating.
    Would I change my height, yes and no. I have found that I have compensated for my physical deficiencies by developing my cognitive abilities. I study math, philosophy (though I believe most is sophistry), cooking, and the fermentation of alcoholic elixirs; my SMS has helped inspire me to be more diverse and inquisitive. Nevertheless, I have noticed that I am more aggressive and eccentric than my taller friends and acquaintances. I posses a strong anger of uncertain origin, attempt to make myself unique and observable, and I often disguise my feelings with a callous exterior. Sometimes I blame my height for my deficiencies, but I believe that is a crux. I have insecurities, which are reinforced by societal norms, but I am slowly learning how to be happy independent of others (and the quagmire of romance).
    We all have desires and attaining those desires often is dependent on others. It is often fruitless to blame others for their preexisting dispositions (no matter how incorrect their assumptions may be) and the failure to actualize our wants, but the solution lies within us all. We must redefine our desires and seek happiness elsewhere, independent for the whims of external prejudice.

  22. Rod said,

    November 23, 2010 @ 8:08 am

    thanks for the insightful, considered comment and welcome to the site.
    Interestingly you mention it’s been going on for 2 years, it’s a very popular article and consistently gets 1,000s of visits a month via search engines - it’s clearly a topic of interest to many.

    Thanks for adding to the debate in such a revealing, honest and interesting way Keith
    All the best

  23. christina williams said,

    January 28, 2011 @ 9:34 pm

    Throughout my years of observing relationships I have noticed a lot of women who are successful,educated, and atttractive dating and marrying men of significant shortness in comparision to their own height…and very happy with their choices…these women have often admitted in secrecy to me that they prefer short men because the woman feels she will always have the upperhand in the relationship because she knows society will always shine the spot light on her…no matter how successful her ‘better-half” is..because she is taller and in many cases much more attactive to look at…she can put up with the difficulties in the relationship better because she always knows regardless of the true love that exists…she can get another man..rather quickly…No matter how much of the complex he may suffer from….she secretly endures it or shares her true feelings with loyal women….knowing full well he can never control her…manipulate her…or throw his arrogance and moodiness around her…why?….because she sees right through him…..understands the insecurity…reads about the “syndrome…complex….stereotype’…whatever society at large wants to define this thing as…applies it to her situation where applicable….laughs…takes a sip of Pino Grigio….and knows she can dump this dude if his insecurities and frustrations start to take an “unenduring” toll on her…..This type of woman may sound “shalow” to some…but to others…..”wise”

  24. Asha said,

    February 9, 2011 @ 1:02 am

    Hi Rod,
    There aren’t too many replies from the ladies out there, so I thought I would add my 2 cents. As a 5′ 5 Indian lass, I’ve always been considered ‘cute’ for my shortarsedness. I feel for vertically challenged men because there is literally nothing to remedy the situation. You have to develop super thick skin (think wetsuit thick) because for women (and cross-dressing males) – the invention of heels allowed us to disguise our short comings (I just had to). The feedback left so far hasn’t mentioned the pluses of dating a short man and yes, I will be making huge generalisations from here on. Did you know they are eager to compensate for the shortness factor in other “departments”? They are also the right height for fun-filled activities in those “departments”. But the absolute best thing about dating a shorty – for women of a comparable height - you can look them right in the eye when you kiss them (talk about passionate!). So I say, don’t knock it ‘til you try it!

    P.S As a complete contradiction to all I’ve said - I ended up marrying a guys who’s height is 6’ 4. We look ridiculous together, but that’s another story…

  25. Rod said,

    February 9, 2011 @ 7:58 am

    fantastic comment and welcome to the site - hope you’ll return.
    I’ll take your word for the ‘plus side’ of shorter men :)
    Also if true I don’t know where that leaves me at 6′2 :)

  26. RButhnot said,

    February 9, 2011 @ 9:27 am

    I’m about 5′8 ish in my socks, perhaps at the lower end of the average scale. I carry it well, and have never felt any lack of height - except one time a barman declared that he would only serve me ‘halfpints’ - which I managed to laugh off whilst quietly wishing I had a sockfull of marbles to hand. I’m known to be stoic - almost horizontal sometimes, so I think I’ve managed to avoid SMS. Maybe Alan Sugar Syndrome would be a more up to date term. I have had three bosses shorter than me, and without exception they were as vicious as a Cleethorpes youff on a match day.

  27. Mike said,

    February 13, 2011 @ 6:18 pm

    I am about 5 7 with shoes on and weigh about 135-140 lbs, but i’m ripped with a six pack. Like pretty much all other short guys, I was teased and got into fights growing up. I didn’t go to prom either. I am 26 years old and moved to a new town.

    Growing up I turned to video games as an escape to an abusive mother, because I was socially awkward having ADHD. Being left-handed makes it even worse, as you slowly begin to realize that there are quirky little things lefties do compared to being right-handed.

    People who say there is a “short man syndrome” have never been in the shoes of a short man. We don’t get that defacto natural respect our taller counterparts get at an unconscious level. If two men are exactly equal in personality the taller one will be the pick of the litter…that is the way I see it. We have to make up for it in some manner.

    So when a tall man starts making blunt jokes or acting like a douche to the short man, should he have to stand there and take it? No. He has a right to defend himself, and then women think “Oh why do men argue blah blah.” Well there you go — some tall men who think their tough stuff will pick on the shorter guys. It’s just the way us men are. Of course because I have been practicing martial arts i’m no longer intimidated by a man’s height. Those men who are tall or of equal height to the men they are next to really don’t have to worry about it.

    When you are a short guy and you see a girl you like, it’s hard not to think “Is she going to find me attractive at this height?” You could say that we are nuts in thinking this way, but we know that most women do prefer to date tall men here (just look at the comments.) I could talk to a girl all night, make her laugh, and then see her go up to a total douche — the only difference in us being a few inches in height.

    Let me take last night as an example: went to a a singles meet up event, since I just moved to a new town. Met a lot of guys and girls (most of who were nice). Then had a conversation with a tall guy who appeared to be cool (he was an army aviator), then turned out to be a total ass to me later, trying to use his height on me. I was confident the entire night talking to women, but he took it a step too far and started scaring the women off by wrapping his arm around them etc in a cocky manner. I guess he felt it right to vent on me. I let him know I wasn’t really going to sit down and take that and he kind of stood at the bar the rest of the night and texted on his iphone and made it a point to avoid me. Do I want this to happen? No, it just does. Tall men see short men as a threat or a way to vent it out…I got so fed up with it that I decided to change it by making myself more confident one day, and it was the best day of my life. I don’t have anyone really mess with me once I tell them i’m a martial artist, that way I can just be myself. People will step all over you in this world if you let them, especially if you are short. Don’t ever let them do that. Stick up for yourself. Don’t be an ass about it though.

  28. Rod said,

    February 13, 2011 @ 7:19 pm

    that’s a great comment, many thanks and welcome to the site - hope you’ll return.
    You make a lot of very rational and sensible points - I heartily agree
    All the best

  29. John said,

    February 14, 2011 @ 1:52 pm

    I’m six foot one and a half. It took a long time to get used to this, and an equally long time to learn to walk with pride.

    I now think six foot to six foot two is the optimum height for a man. I wouldn’t like to be taller, and I’d hate to be short.

  30. RButhnot said,

    February 14, 2011 @ 11:16 pm

    You’re probably right John. But then I’m not unhappy with my five eight either.

  31. Luke said,

    February 17, 2011 @ 3:54 pm

    Let me start by saying I’m 5′6″.

    I didn’t experience a lot of bullying or ridicule at school/college because of my height, I expect this is because I was naturally very athletic and stocky and had a well-muscled frame which made me one of the most physically imposing figures in those institutions. At that time I had my fair share of attractive girlfriends (many of whom where taller than I was) and the issue of my height never really came into focus.

    At this current stage in my life (early 30’s) I don’t meet a lot of new single women in my day-to-day lifestyle so I joined some internet dating sites, and it was on those sites that I began to notice a trend in which shorter guys tend to be discriminated against by many of the tall and short women. I don’t know if it’s a genetic preference built-in to some women or whether they are acting on psychological influences ingrained into them by popular culture (let’s face it, most leading men in movies are tall, even shorter actors such as Tom Cruise and Mel Gibson have to create the illusion of being tall - it’s not enough that they are attractive and charismatic, that must appear taller to have any romantic credibility), but regardless of any other physical, mental or material attributes they simply ruled out any shorter men for dating.

    The most disturbing news article I came upon described how physically healthy, intelligent, successful men under 5′7/8 are not permitted to donate their sperm to sperm banks in America because there is simply no demand for it from women. Just like with online dating, when women are given the opportunity of making an impersonal choice from a high volume of options, height seems to be one of the key criteria that can in many cases completely overshadows the shorter candidates’ other attributes with a large proportion of women.

    There are of course plenty of women out there who are attracted to shorter guys and have no issue at all with their heights, but by the time you take away the proportion of women who simply will not date a short guy under any circumstances and the proportion who are open to dating shorter guys but strongly favour taller guys, that effectively cuts out a massive proportion of potential partners for shorter guys and leaves us as ‘bottom-feeders’ in the dating game, significantly reducing our chances of forming relationships.

    I won’t go into the other issues shorter guys face with regards to employment/salaries, etc but it’s clear that shorter guys generally have their work cut out for them in life.

    Although it is true that some short guys are often competitive or aggressive in order to command the respect and admiration that is generally given more freely to their taller counterparts, I personally feel that this is a reactive instinct developed to counter the general sense of inferiority and rejection that much of society places on them rather than their own inherent insecurities.

    Are shorter people really a genetically inferior caste of humanity that nature has rejected and ultimately wants to cleanse from the gene-pool, or is this general preference toward taller men actually an obsolete relic of a more primitive age that has no place in a modern technological civilisation where mental abilities have overtaken physical abilities in importance?

    Either way, I would say we should all accept and embrace what nature has given us to work with and make the best use of it we can! ;-)

  32. Rod said,

    February 17, 2011 @ 6:36 pm

    tremendous comment, interesting, well argued and erudite, many thanks and welcome to the site.
    It is strange, given how the world has changed, that this issue still seems ingrained in the psyche of so many.
    The examples you give illustrate the point perfectly - ultimately why on earth should it matter ?
    Clearly it does though and the aspect I find most interesting is that so strongly do some feel that it is still a huge issue for them even if they’ve met with tremendous success - Sarkozy for example - one of the most powerful men in the world feels the need to stand on a box when with Cameron and Obama.

    I firmly believe that pretty much only he cares about his height.

    Your last sentence sums it up for me, I’ve always said . . .
    life is just a hand of cards and all you can do is play what you’ve been dealt the best way you can.

  33. Carl said,

    March 21, 2011 @ 4:58 am

    I am 5 ft 5 ” and have been mocked and ridiculed by both females and males. Society is cruel and I feel
    isolated and limited in possibilities. To read that height matters from a woman only hurts the soul of
    a male counterpart. I don’t want to hear it. Leave your opinions to yourselves and hopefully someday
    someone will respect me and want to get to know me for who I am !

  34. RButhnot said,

    March 21, 2011 @ 1:30 pm

    Many of us are classed as short. Personally I’d much rather be short than as shallow as some people can be. Choose your friends well, and you’ll find that they don’t give a stuff what you look like.

  35. Rod said,

    March 21, 2011 @ 4:31 pm

    people are cruel of that there’s no doubt.
    On a note of caution listening to what women say they want should be taken with a pinch of salt I believe.

    We all have a ‘batting list’ of things we like or indeed dislike but most aren’t deal breakers, nor do they apply to everyone.
    A lot of women for example would not be interested in a man who wasn’t rich just as a lot of men wouldn’t be interested in a woman who was overweight.
    It works both ways but it’s not everybody.

  36. lee s said,

    March 27, 2011 @ 4:07 pm

    short men eh ???? nonesense,iam 5ft 5 ins tall from the uk,i dated for 5 yrs an ex miss united kingom ,one of the most famous itv weather presenters heather p,who was 6ft 1 ins tall n stunning,an famous actress from the soap hollyoakes joanna taylor whos 5ft 9ins,plus ex nude center fold model sammi graves who stands at a mere 5ft 11 inches tall,my job….????? a very succesfull tour manager in the music buisiness for pop artists like coldplay,duran duran and the megre coldplay,guys who are short…….u have nothing to worry about,believe me,men who are tall hate me becouse of my succsess,

  37. Yvonne said,

    April 10, 2011 @ 11:41 pm

    This has posed such a problem in my life. I have been with my boyfriend for 6 years now and he suffers from short mans syndrome. We are the same height 5′4 so I WON’T dare wear heels because he will act out even more so if I do. This complex has given him such an inferiority complex that it has destroyed our relationship. When he drinks this all comes out full force. The demand for control, dominance, the false accusations, jealousy, the aggression & verbal bashing if something I do should bruise his ego in even the slightest way. I tried to get through to him. I tried to make him feel like he was man enough for me. It was always a mind game and always having to worry about myself or someone else setting him off. I thought he would realize it didn’t matter to me but it’s a problem all of his own and I give up. I am not willing to put myself through this any longer. In all honesty I never minded his height. Not one bit. I don’t mind short men. However, after this experience I WILL NEVER AGAIN CHOOSE A MAN THAT IS SHORT TO BE MY PARTNER. It is a problem and I’m sure there are exceptions and more mild cases BUT I’m not willing to go through any of it again.

  38. Rod said,

    April 11, 2011 @ 8:07 am

    Hi Yvonne,
    thanks for this very interesting and informative comment and welcome to the site.
    It’s a real insight into how the issue can affect some people.
    I originally made the point that I believe the issue is primarily in the mind of the man as most people simply don’t care how tall he is and I note you confirm this also - very interesting indeed Yvonne and I wish you the best of luck for the future.
    Kind regards

  39. PJ said,

    May 4, 2011 @ 9:57 pm

    I’ll start off by stating that I’m 5′6″. I have a good posture and good proportions. With the right shoes, I can pull off a 5′7″-5′7.5″ quite easily.

    I’m from India and I’m short even by North Indian male standards. In my community, the average height is well beyond 5′10″. Both my brothers are 3-4 inches taller than me.

    I’m 22 right now and my girlfriend of 5 years is 2 inches taller than me at 5′8″. Incidentally, she is the shortest in her family, with all males well above 6′1″ and women around 5′10″.

    Growing up, I was very confident. Until the 8th grade, I was the biggest guy in class, was great at academics as well as sports. Later, in high school, I was no longer the biggest guy, but was quite muscular and was popular among guys as well as girls. But I did notice that not being the biggest guy in school meant that the role of ‘class-leader/solitary alpha male’ that I occupied until 8th grade was absent to me.

    Nevertheless, I had a string of relationships right through school with attractive women, culminating in my current relationship with my beautiful, very intelligent girlfriend. I’m not particularly handsome, but would definitely call myself above average looking, btw.

    She is my only girlfriend who is taller than me, but is in all likelihood, also the woman I will spend the rest of my life with. Her best friend is 5′9″, and she tells me that they had both made a pact that they would only date guys taller than them. But then, she happened to meet and fall in love with me, a guy two inches shorter than her.

    I have never been disrespected by guys either, though I can certainly say that while I have always been something of a leader, I have never been able to occupy the ‘alpha male’ role largely because of my height. In a crowd of tall people, I do find it a struggle at times to get my voice heard. I’m a very confident guy and have good musculature which prevents anyone from seeing me as ‘weak’.

    But yes, all these stories of perceived heightism, of women preferring shorter men, etc. do make me feel insecure at times, despite the fact that I’ve never been a victim. I would like to believe that its not a height problem but a problem of confidence. Shorter guys are disrespected because of their lack of confidence (and being short makes them easier targets), not entirely because of their lack of height (though their are idiots in the world who would do that too, just as some racists would single you out because of your skin color).

    I do sometimes wonder how any family photograph would look if I do end up marrying my current girlfriend as all my in-laws would be much taller than I. I don’t think it would be terribly pleasing aesthetically, but then, this is what I have to work with.

    Point is: I have never faced heightism. I run my own company, have tons of great friends, and successful personal relationships. Despite my height, I usually charm most people I meet, started my entrepreneurial venture at an age at which most people can’t legally drink, get good grades and just entered graduate school for a M.A. in English.
    In other words, if there is any height discrimination, at least I haven’t let it stop me from living a full, rich life.

    To all fellow short people: there is still NO evidence to suggest that people (including women) have an innate preference for taller men. Taller people aren’t more confident; they have their own list of worries and insecurities. If there is one thing our modern society is good at, it is at making us feel inferior and insecure about our physical traits. Your weight, texture of your skin, skin color, height, hair, teeth, eye color - all of these will be used to make yourself feel bad about yourself. Don’t let them do that. Be proud of what and who you are. These are the tools you have been given. Use them the best you can.

  40. Munchkin said,

    June 12, 2011 @ 10:34 am

    ALL SHORT PEOPLE SHOULD BE HERDED INTO CAMPS. After utilizing their labors they should be dealt with swiftly and dispassionately. They are a blemish on the face of human evolution and should be eradicated from all gene-pools and historical memory. Why this ONLY and logical recourse has not been executed sooner is a staggering oversight by our prior, worthy, rational, tall and NORMAL world leaders. We can only hope they will rectify this oversight hastily so that the human race can prosper as all our wars, conflicts, social injustices, technological delays and global adversities are caused by the undesirable element we all know too well and look down upon. Once rid of them this world will be better for it.

    Let us be rid of the shrilly problem gawking up at us.

    Oh, and I’m 5′5′’ by the way

  41. Rod said,

    June 12, 2011 @ 10:36 am

    excellent comment :) My type of humour.
    It reminds me of an old British TV show called Small Problem !
    I doubt they’ll be repeating it any time soon though :)

  42. RButhnot said,

    June 13, 2011 @ 12:42 pm

    Thank you Munchkin. Well said. Maybe we should have a height bar set up somewhere to aid the selection process. Outside supermarkets maybe. Tesco/Asda must have many empty lorries departing their stores and would value the extra business. Sadly, dry humour is rapidly being driven underground by the fascist GSOH brigade, who don’t/won’t ‘get it’. How my cheeks sometimes ache after a day of false bonhomie.

  43. Mike said,

    July 23, 2011 @ 10:13 pm

    The comments of Christina and to a lesser extent yvonne show how short men are to be disposed of. Christina shows exactly why we have an inferiority complex. We are told we have to grovel at the feet of anyone taller than us or we will quickly be replaced. You have no worth. No matter what you do, no matter how good, how hansome, how muscular, Its all for naught because we can tossed by the wayside. That is why people like Yvonne get treated the way they did. If at all positions in life you are considered a lesser person by virtue of something out of your control it is frustrating to no end.

    I have on many occasion made suggestions that were not even listened to until my 6′2 friend would repeat it. I am 5′4″ by the way. I am also Mensa. I have a good job, many skills, and am ALWAYS complimented on my second profession of massage therapist. Yet I have trouble dating. And point blank have been told on several occasions that they just don’t date short guys.

    On many nights my friends have left me chatting up some chick only to shut down the bar at 2:00 AM her half in the bag and walking out with some tall guy-”what happened you talk to her all night” Yeah but I am not 6′2″-which I would say is the ideal height. Tall enough to be tall, but not so tall as to look awkward.

    To put it into perspective for women, Imagine finding out at 16 you were going to be 400 lbs for the rest of your life and that due to a disorder, dieting and exercise would only make you look fatter and not lose any weight.

    Like other have mentioned, its not just what is said, or ignored, but the fact you exist is a burden for them to even talk to you, that is if you are perceived as interested in dating them. I have had women say to me “I don’t date short guys” while at parties when I was with someone because they just ASSUMED i had no other options. And the worst offenders are the so called woman we are suppose to go after, short woman. That is what really bother us. You aren’t even hitting on them, just trying to make small talk at a party and you are shot down. Once they know you are with someone(and not a threat) they relax and wow now you can have a conversation, but the mear thought that you are single and holding a conversation is a threat to them.

    I generally date woman within about an inch or 2 of my height. Any shorter and the need a caveman to make them feel safe, any taller and it gets awkward. After a number of bad relationships, I finally started having confidence that I could date and I had grown confident enough in my regular job to stand up for myself. This changed things a lot. It still isn’t easy, and I do get shot down with all kinds of excuses. I do know that women can tell when you have game or not. But its better.

    The problem then is how do you get confidence with woman when the tall man is given respect out of the gate. Being short you have to earn it, and earn it hard. So you get a much later start on relationships. It is a viscous cycle that you have to break out of mostly by incremental improvements in one self.

    The part that is hard is knowing deep down you are as good or better than most of the caveman(though I don’t consider all tall men in this group) but because of genetics you lose. You get bitter about it and it makes it hard to not have walls and defence mechanisms. You also know that once in your 30’s(as I am) your choices are tough. Women are either single for some valid reasons, or divorced and carrying what is now major baggage. And while you may find that odd girl that somehow isn’t also bitter at being passed by, she too will most likely be difficult to get to know for reason such as your own. Thus no chemistry and no connection leading to a failed possibility

    In the end I am a much better person because I have had to learn to do so much more to compensate for my height, but I shouldn’t have had to in the first place. I have said its a good thing I didn’t wake up 6′ one morning because I would be the biggest jerks you would ever meet. Being able to use turnabout on some of the people who scorned me for an accident of birth would be just too sweet to pass up. Oh you would date me know, well I don’t want you anymore you middle aged divorced so and so. Sorry but my imagination got the better of me.

    So to you young guys, it gets better, just don’t expect it to ever be great.

  44. Rod said,

    July 25, 2011 @ 7:12 am

    many thanks for an excellent comment, really appreciate your contribution and a warm welcome to the site - hope you’ll return
    All the best

  45. LouLou said,

    September 10, 2011 @ 4:31 am

    I am a 6ft 1inch female. I am very much attracted to short men, I am currently seeing a guy who is 5ft 4inch and he is absolutely wonderful. I have dated taller guys well over six foot but I just like the shorter ones, and its not a domination thing either I just really enjoy how they can move around.

  46. Rod said,

    September 10, 2011 @ 7:37 am

    thanks for the comment and welcome to the site, the feminine perspective is very much appreciated
    Kind regards

  47. Aku said,

    October 19, 2011 @ 8:01 am

    Hey Rod,

    I happened to stumble upon this page by typing in small man syndrome on google!! unbelievable some of the posts I have read, I have to say I could relate the most to the gentleman above Mike’s post.

    Im 5″4. 26 and a dispensing optician. Ive only ever had one girlfriend and she was smaller than me, it was way back when I was 18. It lasted less than 6 months it was an immature connection nothing serious ever happened!- Don’t ask the next question!!!!

    Ever since then I have had “interests” but nothing ever materialised from them. I built a wall as Mike said and its exactly for that protective barrier use!! I have had the feeling that my height was always an issue!

    I do get very defensive when a joke about my height comes up hence why I felt it was a problem and googled it. I dress well am a nice person according to friends but my confidence is totally shot since I can remember. I just get this idea that no matter how nice you are or how good you look the fact you’re short will always be a problem!

    My mum said the worst thing to me a while back - “women dont date short guys, you should only go for a small girl!!” Btw i have 3 brothers and 2 sisters and they’re all normal height so to speak!

    Maybe Mike/Rod can help me out here… any tips on confidence building? etc…


  48. Rod said,

    October 19, 2011 @ 8:31 am

    thanks for the comment and welcome to the site - Mike’s comment is indeed excellent and I hope has been, and will continue to be, of interest to the huge numbers of people who visit this page.

    Self-confidence is something I’m really big on Aku, I think it’s impossible to overstate the importance of it.
    I go as far as saying the lack of confidence is one of the biggest personal problems people face in this country as it leads to so many other issues.

    Is it possible that the confidence issue and ‘the wall’ you mention is something that women may pick up on Aku ?
    Because your height bothers you - it then seems that it must be your height that’s the issue - possibly !?

    There are a lot of single people out there Aku and if they all start looking at themselves for a reason then it could be easy to find one, too short, too tall, too fat, too thin etc etc but none of them really matter as you’ll see plenty of people with all the aforementioned issues happily in relationships.

    I still believe that most personal issues people have only actually bother them and they debilitate themselves effectively - ask yourself this for example would you care if you saw somebody with a big nose for example ?
    Of course not, nobody really cares except the person themselves who thinks it’s a massive problem and it can lead to them making their whole lives a misery.

    I feel sure if you take care of yourself physically, be well turned out, be nice, pleasant, decent, honest and interesting then those qualities will not be lost on the majority of women.

    And finally Aku, I too am single . . . and 6ft 2″ tall !
    Take care, be happy and best of luck Aku
    All the best

  49. Killbain said,

    November 5, 2011 @ 9:02 am

    Hi All,

    I think there is also an element of shorter people being treated as children i.e. literally ‘not grown up’ and in many western societies average height has increased over recent decades exacerbating the problems. It always suprises me that men of 5′10 are often described as ’short’ in the media.

    It’s of course perfectly normal for adults to treat children as, well, children and children are almost inevitable shorter / smaller than the adults……but when a person becomes very tall by comparison to others or when societaly average height becomes 5′ 10 to 11, anyone below that ‘’norm’ can easily slip into ‘child’ mode.

    I think this is sometimes behind the tendency for short people to be ignored or taken less seriously than taller counterparts…..and behind the ‘heightist’ attitude of some women in particular.

    You don’t expect to take a child seriously in many areas of life….this is a natural thing of development and maturation to adulthood, but is it possible that psychologically those taller than the average carry on this adult / child perspective with inevitable consequences?

  50. Rod said,

    November 5, 2011 @ 10:06 am

    thank you for the comment and welcome to the site. That’s very insightful and opens up the debate in a wider sense - I don’t think we’ve touched on this aspect thus far.

    I think there’s much in what you say, it’s all there in the subconscious, we ‘think things’ without even ‘thinking’ as it were. Our subconscious perception certainly alters the way we think and judge and your theory then becomes very interesting indeed.

    An interesting proof of what I mean is the ‘Lab Coat Test’
    You get somebody in normal clothes to tell various people something that is plainly absurd, ridiculous.
    The result is most disbelieve what they’re been told

    You then repeat the experiment only this time the person wears a doctor/scientist white lab coat.
    Nearly everybody then believes what’s been said !

    I think you’ve started a very interesting new angle Killbain

  51. Tyler said,

    December 13, 2011 @ 5:43 pm

    I’m 24 from the UK and I’m 5ft 6″. I’m attractive, I bodybuild at the gym and I’m a student. However I have trouble dating. Girls my height or shorter just flat out refuse to meet up. When I’m out and about, I’ve had women my height make remarks about my short height! On dating websites, women who are 5ft5 or shorter, state that their ideal date has to be no shorter than 5ft 11. Even if the man is slightly taller than the woman, it’s still not enough! I find this confusing.

    yes I do have short man syndrome, who can blame me? At the bar, the bartender always chooses the tallest customer, regardless of who got there first. At bars, taller men barge straight past or push me out of the way.

    Being short never used to bother me when I was younger, but since I got older, people seem less tolerant and understanding of short people.

  52. Rod said,

    December 13, 2011 @ 5:52 pm

    thank you for taking the time to comment and a warm welcome to the site.
    I was asking a young lady about this the other week, she’s a lovely girl, very nice and friendly person.
    She said she’d never date a guy shorter than her, at a push the same height when she was wearing heels.

    I asked why and she looked confused
    Well, you just don’t do you,

    Clearly it wasn’t a conscious thing, something that’s there deep in the subconscious.

  53. Michael said,

    December 25, 2011 @ 8:00 am

    I’m 18 now just graduating high school and stand at about 196cm, I’ve found that being tall generally makes people treat you differently here in Australia (originally from Zimbabwe). it may just be because i don’t take offence to what people do and say but i’ve never had problems with people. my friend on the other hand who is about 160cm’s is basically hated by most of the school population, He’s a good kid but lately as he’s gotten older his arrogance has just risen with his judgement on others, i believe he does dislike how tall i am as he tends to make remarks about lack of coordination (which is true for the first few years of puberty). as well as this he also rants on about how me being tall relates to the respect i receive from all the league boys who are basically the one’s that bully him on a weekly basis. It may be that but being myself i don’t honestly care what people say and do but my friend will take it as a huge insult. Just my opinion though there are several!
    other shorter boys who are very popular though they do lack a love for aussie rules which can be a real factor in bullying here in australia.

    anyway have a merry christmas!

  54. Kay said,

    January 26, 2012 @ 2:53 am

    Well i have to say i am a 5′7 female and my boyfriend is only 5′1…at first it was something to get used to but after being together for 5years it doesnt bother me at all anymore! i always thought he was cute and i love how he stays in shape. i always liked tall guys but i do find myself looking at shorter guys :) personality is all you need. I love you short guys!!! lol

  55. george smith said,

    February 5, 2012 @ 5:46 am

    I am 16 years old and I am only 5 ft 4″ and I have been told my bones have fused after I have been on a drug called accutain for acne this made my bones fuse almost instantly and I will never grow again my mum is 5 ft 6″ and my dad is 6 feet and my 3 year youngest brother aged 13 is 5 ft 9″. I strongly advise u against accutain. And I was wondering is 5ft 4″ was to small for a man to be and this has realy depresed me over the last few months and I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on this ?

  56. Rod said,

    February 5, 2012 @ 6:03 am

    as I’ve mentioned above, I don’t personally think it’s an issue. Of course that doesn’t help you me saying that.
    All I would say is, I firmly believe that you, understandably, worry about it but nobody else is bothered and if nobody else is bothered need you be ?

    I would appreciate life George and just plough ahead, at 16 years of age the whole world is out there waiting for you - you cannot measure the worthiness of a human being or success on a tape measure George.
    Best of luck

  57. veronica said,

    February 6, 2012 @ 10:56 am

    George ,

    I can feel your frustration through the lines that you write.

    At 16, who knows how many cms you may grow yet even with this medication . My oldest son had this medication and he did get to 5ft 8 ins.

    I would concentrate on eating healthily to get the correct nutrients and getting lots of exercise to ensure that you reach your potential height.

    But , you know George, being tall isn’t the be -all-and -end-all . It’s what are you are like as a person that matters. And at 16 , heck , life is new and out there for you to enjoy . Ultimately , life is not about height but in living fully each day what we have been given.

  58. Amiguru said,

    February 24, 2012 @ 7:40 pm


    Did you know that there was Bantams Battalion in WWI? To belong you had to be 5′ 4″ or less in height! :?



  59. Rod said,

    February 24, 2012 @ 7:59 pm

    never heard of that no, but I like it very much - fantastic bit of info, as always.
    I wonder what the reason was ?

  60. Amiguru said,

    February 24, 2012 @ 11:23 pm


    Just Wiki this: “Bantam_(military)”.

    If you think about, they would be ideal for tank crews, mining operations under the German lines, and of course in the trenches it was a lot easier for them to keep their heads down, unlike gangly 6ft+ guys! :lol:

    Mr. Shorthaars

  61. Rod said,

    February 25, 2012 @ 6:37 am

    I’ve always had trouble keeping my head down, and my mouth shut for that matter, I susepct the trenches would have been a place least suited to !
    Rod (still grinning over Grimsby Castle)

  62. Sophie said,

    March 16, 2012 @ 8:38 pm

    Someone mentioned that at internet dating sites women tend to pick taller guys.
    I would do the same and let me explain why: first, there is the part that a taller man makes me feel more feminine, so this is something that’s in my head, you could say it’s my problem, my issue with self-confidence.
    The other, and I think bigger part is that I would anticipate a shorter man to have problems and self-confidence issues because of his height. And when you are starting to date someone, you will try to rule out the issues that you are pretty certain will be there, because there will be enough problems that you can’t foresee, why add one that you can.

    Incidentally what brought me to this site is that I just broke up with my boyfriend of 2 years who was the same height as I am (5′7) and I’m pretty sure the reason we eventually broke up was connected to him thinking he is too short and thus not attractive enough. I’d long had the feeling that he is overcompensating for something, being strangely vindictive at times with me, trying to dominate me and to prove something in a way that was somehow out of place… Just a strange underlying current that slowly poisoned everything. Consciously he’d never admit it, probably wasn’t even be aware of why this, so we couldn’t discuss it. And even if we had, I’m not sure it would’ve been of any help. I mean, how could I make him feel more secure if my love wasn’t enough to do that?

    For me it was never his height that caused the problem but the consequences this brought about in his personality. I totally agree with Rod that it is in the mind of the short guy, and I will probably not ever go out again with someone who is less than tall because there’s just too much of a risk that they will have this problem and it will disrupt the relationship.

  63. Rod said,

    March 17, 2012 @ 6:11 am

    superb comment - many thanks for taking the time to leave it and welcome to the site.
    As to your first part, I wouldn’t say that’s ‘your problem’ I think that’s how we are - we’re ‘hardwired’

    I think your last paragraph speaks volumes as well . . .

  64. Rose said,

    May 20, 2012 @ 12:10 am

    Some of these male comments about what girls say break my heart. I’m attractive enough to model part time and I can promise you that you don’t want to be with such a superficial girl (note that I don’t call these females ‘women’.)

    My story is mixed. My favorite brother was a smaller man. My other brothers are very tall (over 6 feet.) Yes, my smaller sized brother was teased to extremes. But it made he extremely sensitive, loving and highly charming. Probably because when people like him live with injustice from superficial people (the very people I make my living on) they develop unusual levels of compassion. But that was my brother’s story.

    I dated a man who is at least three inches shorter to my 5′7 frame. He was not compassionate. Teased? Yes. But that’s the extent to what this former fiancee told me about his insecurity with his height and society. He drove an enormous truck, which he said, “Makes him feel like a big man.” He applied that phrase to many subjects. He is extremely passive agressive and down right mean to me, a woman always on his side. I do believe these hurtful games against me are the result of his height. Actually once, in our initial days of dating he said that he is always the smallest in the room. I did all I could to build his confidence. But deep down this paticular short man, “Feels like a big man” playing power games and spouting hate. He is a different species then my brother.

    My point is that society is cruel, but its up to the individual to know in their heart that their are people who love others for their personality, and those are the people you want to give your valuable time to. My brother is such a beautiful person. He did tell me once that he wanted to be bigger. My (now) ex-fiancee told me that girls called him a troll in high school. Both men had the insecurity, and one turned into a beacon of compassion. The other is hateful.

    Do you shorter men realize how insecure and shallow these girls are who have no clue? They are painfully insecure.

    Last thought: There are short men who take their insecurity to a dangerous place. It must be said. But a smart person can detect who is a good natured person and who is beyond bitter. Stick with the good of this World.

  65. Rod said,

    May 20, 2012 @ 7:44 am

    fantastic comment, many thanks for taking the time to share it and a warm welcome to the site.
    I think it’s such a shame that people allow something which is ultimately unimportant to blight their entire lives.

  66. Nathan said,

    May 31, 2012 @ 3:08 pm

    I’m 20 years old, I had cancer twice, it stunted my growth and i’m now 5ft 1.
    I listen to tales of 5ft 5 getting a bad run at life, and i must say it’d be great to be that tall.
    I have no friends my hieght, in fact most are 6ft plus, i seldom notice the great imbalance untill coming upon a mirror or window.
    I get defensive a lot, it’s become second nature, i get compared to 14 year olds, its beyond ridiculous to walk into a club, the looks and the chitchat is sensable from a mile away.
    I’m a genuine, decent, hardworking individual, i pride myself on being nothing but poistive, outgoing and upbeat, anyone who knows me will vouch for that.
    But i do have to work harder in the beginning to be taken seriously. i guess it helps me in some respect to introduce myself and settle quicker than most.
    But the intitial “WOW” reaction is hard to ignore.
    Biggest issue I have is being taken seriously by women, i’ve discussed it with various girls and yes hieght matters a lot, so naturally, their interest in me become strictly friendly.

    It’s a massive issue, i’ve been rebuffed for being too nice and caring, too endeering and flat out way too short.
    I can’t help but think my caring and genuine nature would be much more beneficial if i was 6ft purely because women want to be protected and that’s why’d i’d offer if i was that tall, but being my hieght as it is, purely can be seen as weak physically and unnatractive because it doesn’t immediately offer stabilty and safetey.

    I have the biggest heart and all i want to do is show a women the best in life, share my experinces and find a best friend i can care for more than anything in the world, however my hieght restricts me significantly, no matter how much i like to think it doesn’t.

  67. v said,

    May 31, 2012 @ 3:46 pm

    Nathan ,


    Well done on coming through your illness…twice. You have done something that many older people would find difficult. I am pleased for you. The fact that you have had the strength and determination to do so is a great point in your favour, personality wise. It sounds to me like this experience has made you ‘’walk tall'’ .

    People who concentrate on what we look like are shallow. You will find someone to share your life with if you allow them to see your qualities. Just be yourself. (And don’t forget there are many 5ft women too )

    As a 5ft woman, I HATE being ‘protected’ and like to look after myself. I don’t know where this idea comes from. My husband knows that I hate having my bag carried etc. ‘’ I can carry my own ; I’ve got two hands, TY very much.'’

  68. Grace said,

    June 5, 2012 @ 9:04 pm

    I’m just under 5′ tall and I’ve always dated taller men. My ex was 6′2. I recently ended a relationship with a man that was 5′8″, which is still considered short by most women. I believe 6′ is the ideal threshold for most.

    Generally, I thought he was attractive and nice. But I couldn’t stand his insecurities about being short. It was something I was willing to overlook, but when your short man often makes self-deprecating comments regarding his height or how the world is unfair (getting passed up for a promotion for instance), it is a huge turn off. It makes me think, “If you don’t have confidence in yourself, then why should I?”

    We didn’t date very long and I liked him very much in the beginning when he seemed so confident. I don’t have this problem at all with tall men. I think that’s why women prefer them, even someone as extremely petite as me. Seriously, my dating experience with a shorter man (5′9 and below) was so disappointing that I don’t believe I will never date one again. Sorry if I offended anyone.

  69. Rod said,

    June 6, 2012 @ 7:33 am

    thank you for the really honest comment and welcome to the site.
    I’m sure you haven’t offended anyone, if anything I suggest it’s extremely helpful.

    I believe this ties in with my theory that it’s really only an issue with the person themselves, a large part of the issue for some men who feel they’re not tall enough is simply brought about by themselves.

    In your situation Grace clearly it wasn’t a problem initially otherwise you wouldn’t have dated him, just the subsequent insecurities . . .

    I think there’s something very positive peopl can take from your comment Grace - many thanks indeed
    Kind regards

  70. steveo said,

    June 17, 2012 @ 6:19 am

    i think most of the comments on this site are great. there are lots of people out there who have severe problems with their height, i have encountered them through bad luck! most people dont realise that these surveys on tall and short people are geared towards the outcome the questioner wants to get. i know plenty of tall old folks, when they say short people live longer, and they say tall people have the most kids, yet from the people i know , the shorter ones have bigger families! i am only 5 foot 4 inches and male. even though my dad is nearly 6 feet tall, i get my height from my mum so i am happy with that as i know it is a normal height for the men in my maternal family, and it is genetic because my mum was adopted so their are no enviromental factors there! just try to ignore the morons who say you are too short or too tall as it means nothing so long as you treat good people and animals with respect. dont take the abuse to heart whether you are 3 feet tall or 8 feet !
    tall, if you respect others and stand up for yourself you can tower over the bad people.

  71. Shorty said,

    October 27, 2012 @ 2:51 pm

    I’m 5′3″, male. Here’s my story… Being short never bothered me too much growing up, as I am athletic. I have a bit of a weird strong build, with very broad shoulders and thus have always felt I could hold my own with the taller guys. I’ve always been positive and confident in my abilities generally, but I’ve worked really hard to keep it this way.

    Yes I’ve been teased, but people didn’t really bully me. However, until I was successful in university and then in my career the dating game was hard. I’d be lying if I said this didn’t dent this aspect of my confidence. However, professionally and socially I have been very successful (I’m self made, run my own business), and this has shaped my personality. Its attractive. When I realized at simply not caring about these prejudices was the trick, that’s what I did. The other is to use the fact that people underestimate you as part of the game. Play a long game and gazump them later, when they least expect it. It’s been brilliant for strategizing in other fields.

    I’m happy to report that I’ve been in relationships with taller and shorter women, and am married to a wonderful and beautiful woman of my height. Life is good. I can’t do anything about shortness, it’s just part of me…. so I use it to my advantage. It can be fun. One should cultivate a private enjoyment of schadenfreude, but never stick the boot in afterwards. Hold your hand out and help that tall guy up, you’ll have changed his perception.

    So stay positive guys, use your head, heart and talents. I can truly empathize with the discrimination, but getting bitter about it is doing none of us any good. Wise up, be smart.

    And remember, there is no point wondering what it would be like to be taller, unless you’re trying to empathize with someone tall.

  72. Rod said,

    October 27, 2012 @ 5:03 pm

    wonderful comment, very positive, very inspiring and many thanks for taking the time to leave it - a great many people read this page and many will take great comfort from this.
    My thanks once again and welcome to the site
    All the best

  73. BooBooBaby said,

    January 5, 2013 @ 8:11 am

    I’m a shorter female (5′3″) and I have dated a man over 6′ and other men who were only a couple inches taller than I am. My most recent relationship was with a man who is about 5′7″. His height never bothered my whatsoever - I have dated men under 5′7″ - but he did seem to have a chip on his shoulder, and it was exhausting. It was like he felt he had something to prove and while he claimed to be full of confidence,

    I think the bravado (which was worse around taller men) was a cover-up. I get that society is pretty judgmental toward shorter men - short men deal with the same burden that overweight women have to deal with. My honest opinion, as a woman, is that height does not make you sexy, it’s attitude. GENUINE confidence is sexy, not bravado.

    Some women may decide not to date you based on your height, but it’s their loss. Who can explain attraction? Some people like brown hair, some people like green eyes, some people like tall men… don’t take it personally. And!
    don’t develop a chip on your shoulder, because that is never appealing to anyone.

  74. Rod said,

    January 5, 2013 @ 7:06 pm

    this is a great comment and I think will be of great interest to any men concerned about their height.
    Many thanks indeed BBB and welcome to the site.
    All the best

  75. Michele said,

    April 13, 2013 @ 6:22 pm

    I am 5 6 and considered quite attractive my husband is 5 5 and he is the best husband anyone can ask for size dosent matter character does our son is 5 11 at 16 and he doesn’t think his dad is less of a man because of his height at the end you have to happy in your life :)

  76. Rod said,

    April 13, 2013 @ 6:23 pm

    absolutely - many thanks and welcome to the site

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